@AlanJParks" So, has Glasgow and other cities always been in the hands of comprehensive planners who take an overview of all the parties involved? Directions to Wine Alley Govan (Glasgow) with public transport The following transport lines have routes that pass near Wine Alley Govan Bus : 121 23 26 X19 Train : SCOTRAIL Light rail : SUB How to get to Wine Alley Govan by Bus? Community Centre & Play-Park in the Wine Alley, Govan. It is important that we continue to promote these adverts as our local businesses need as much support as possible during these challenging times. Henry (Harry) Knop was born in Govan in 1902, he married Susan Bowie in 1924, they had at least 5 children; Harriet, Frederick, Arthur, Helen and Henry, Harry Knop died in 1976. Datum OSGB36 - NGR. I remember Betty McPhee, Margaret Liversidge, the Gourlay brothers and Brian Wilson.We lived in the top floor for a few years and the moved to bigger flat on first floor with a bathroom. James and Catherine moved to Govan from Ireland and lived on Victoria (Neptune) Street and Langlands Road. I went to St.Anthonys then St.Gerards, great days, I went back in the 70s and hardly recognized anything, even the people were different, if anybody has any info. One was that there was no real attempt at involving the tenants in these changes, nor was there any attempt at involving the community in the future management of their own locale. Went to Drumoyne primary then Govan High. Scottish Skier February 15, 2020 at 7:51 PM. If I could I would have bought many! Does anyone remember Cuthbertson's dairies milk depot Vicarfield street Govan. Following the five convictions, the man who led the investigation, detective superintendent Joe Jackson, received several letters from grateful Wine Alley residents. My sisters were Elaine & Brenda and my brother was George. I was born 1951 in 57 Nethan St. Pagini similare. People lived with the inconsistency in the records. My maternal grandmother Mary Agnes McDermott and her family came to Govan from Ireland in the early 1900's. Writing on behalf of my auntie. Glasgow Braendam Link, Pearce Institute, 840 Govan Road, Govan, Glasgow, G51 3UU Their children's names were John, Michael, Christopher, Bridget and Edward. I was born in Govan in 1930 and went to Saint Constantine's Elementary School and then on to Saint Gerard's in 1941, I was at St Gerard's until 1946. This was a very hard job physically where we would carry a wicker basket (full of ashes, etc.) "[13], By the early part of the 19th century, Govan was rapidly losing its rural appearance and assuming the character of a town with the development of new industries and factories, including Reid's Dye Works and Pollok's Silk Mill. We moved to Cardonald when I was very small but used to go back to Govan all the time and stay with my grannie at 711 Govan Road, above McLarens Newsagents. They were both always on a mission to land a. Delete. It was a them and us attitude that persisted right up until the Wine Alley was demolished in the late 1990s. It never surfaced again until Lil Feeney came looking for me (who I had known from Govan Initiative) and asked me if I would be interested in helping to write a Report on poverty and deprivation (along with herself and Brian) inspired by Darners book on the same theme. Photos: Splash News. What Damer said about community could also be said about officialdom for they too can be victims of circumstance whenever decisions for the better do not influence policies for the worse. I lived in Kintra Street from 1946 until 1960 and went to Broomloan Road school then Govan High. During the late 19th century, the population of Govan increased more than tenfold: from 9,000 in 1864 to 95,000 by 1907. Daddy Boyd who used to wear his academic gowns on official occasions which I to this day found hard to understand as none of the other teachers ever wore them. I remember our next door neigbours on the ground floor the Meechans and particularly John,who was around the same age as myself. It was a Magical childhood play area, the closestairs were a Pirate Ship; Hospital; Wee Shop; School, aye in the 1950's we used our imagination rather than computers to stop us being bored! Drumoyne primary it was, a year after my big brother Robert started (about 53) then on to Govan High School, that was the one which caught fire when I was due to sit my O levels (no excuses). They expect 20 calls a week from officers needing help. Only neighbours I remember were children Mary and her younger brother James Haggerty who lived in same close which I think was 95 Golspie Street. My great grandfather lived at 67 Garmouth Street with his 3 daughters. I lived my early years in Govan on Vicarfield Street opposite St. Gerard's School where many of my older cousins attended, amongst them the McCurrys. In its turn, this attitude helped create the malignant tales about people who lived there as being nothing but thieves, layabouts and drunks. Playing out in the street with our whip and peeries my sisters and friends would have contests to see who could chalk their peerie with the best colour design. Does anyone remember Reid the baker who was in Neptune Street around about the 1950s? 13 Bailey and Hastings, 2004, p. 92 We used to listen to all the records being played from Munleys on a Saturday morning. He wanted to discover how and why such places came into being and to see if remedies could be found. the 550 tenancies available, only 33 (16%) were identifiably from Govan itself. We love it here, but still go back to Scotland every other year. 123m New Cafe India Govan . Our parents and our brother were also married there, and we were all Christened there as well. Such developments benefit the aesthetic and connective appeal of the Govan area for future visitors. [14] in 1901 the Burgh boundaries increased further west to include Linthouse and West Drumoyne. My Mum was Godmother to your brother and I was at your wedding. Used to jump the dykes with my brother Kenneth. These adverts enable local businesses to get in front of their target audience the local community. Does anyone remember the shop or have a picture of it in the background? The Catholic Church that was located in Stanley Street was I believe the largest Catholic Church in Glasgow and at one time had 5 resident Priests. Just looking for anybody who new the Paterson, dad george known as Geordie and mum Betty, sisters Elaine, Brenda and brother George. During the Viking Age, following the sack of Dumbarton Rock in 870, Govan is believed to have been one of the major centres of the Kingdom of Strathclyde. 14276 Southeast 176th Street. This is a small family owned and operated place. Not a penny in our pockets other than the price of admission to the pictures on a Saturday afternoon and some extra for some sweeties, I remember my grandmother used to give Helen my sweetie coupons from the back of the Ration Book, as she had such a sweet tooth that she would have ate her way through February and March coupons even though it was only January and stores knew we were still going to be rationed for some time to come (I didn't have a sweet tooth so always had coupons to spare). It was later in 1974 that she began her Stairhead Seminars in the so-called "Wine Alley" area of Govan which led, in 1976, to the Govan Project. Resolved: Release in which this issue/RFE has been resolved. Anyone remember Quinn's pet shop in Harmony Row? Community service. Community planning began in the rapidly industrialising 19th century cities of Great Britain and America where reformers and well-wishers wanted to ameliorate the appalling living conditions of the working classes. That is why this Reflection will critically examine the Moorepark experience (within the context of community planning) from before Darners time to the 1970s and the present, where it will question if there have been any real changes in attitudes between then and today or worse, are the same mistakes being repeated, and is proven good work being ignored? I worked there for a time early 60s I left in 1962. (they lived up the pen at No. I asked him if I was going to jail, he said not at all and he gave me a sweetie. My dad gave my a slap for not fighting them, god was only about five years old. It occurs in the buyers market where access to housing is based on the ability to pay, and it also takes place in the council allocation system where the disadvantaged are lumped together in sink housing schemes. [9], The earliest references to Govan are found in connection with the Christian church. I have memories of buying penny and thrupny canes there to make a bow 'n arrows. In early 1989 police discovered a team of young drug dealers were operating in Wine Alley, led by older man Eddie Burnside. Again, where were the democratic, caring authorities when the 1987-1990 Glasgow Housing Condition Survey found that in a third of the citys houses suffered from condensation, dampness and mould and did little about it? 14). Lesbian actress Raven-Symone showed off her high top fade and her unique backpack at the Los Angeles Premiere of Fox's 'Empire at ArcLight Cinemas Cinerama Dome in Hollywood, California. If there is anyone out there that remembers me please contact me :). Related Pages. I think the whisky bond was one of them. Many of the people who buy these flats do not intend to stay in them rather; they hope either to rent them out at exorbitant prices or to sell them quickly at a greater price than they bought them for. who traditionally incorporate the red and black civic colours in the socks of their kit;[43] their Ibrox Stadium has a stand named for Govan (the closest to the heart of the burgh), although officially this was re-named after their former player Sandy Jardine in 2014.[44]. Moorepark is a small area in the Scottish city of Glasgow. Somewhere along the Govan Road, there was a sweet shop with a train set that would go around all the big jars of sweets. ; Scots: Gouan; Scottish Gaelic: Baile a' Ghobhainn) is a district, parish, and former burgh now part of south-west City of Glasgow, Scotland. Mother has an excellent memory and I am attempting to write down stories about; the old shops; events streets and everything. Elder park is a mess and all the railings have been taken out. See more of Sunny Govan Memories on Facebook. No1seems2care. Members of our family have now moved away to other locations in Glasgow and Paisley, but we still remember our childhoods growing up in Govan. I thought you wrote "hides in a fridge and dodges an erection!" . Helen Dunlop and I have kept in touch all these years, she is only one month younger than me and lived across the street, therefore we have known each other all of our lives. Only a few years into it, faults like dampness had begun to appear in the tower blocks of the Laurieston/ Gorbals project, which rapidly turned into a disaster area. For instance; my mother was standing on the banks of the Clyde in 1938, when the Queen Mary was launched. I attended Harmony Row School and Hills Trust Primary. By the early 80s, much of the place had acquired an air of dilapidation and neglect. Govan and Fisher, former NBA player and current head coach for the Los Angeles Sparks, got married on Saturday at Cielo Farms in Malibu, California. Sometimes it was hillarious, waiting in the queue to get onto that seat, and having to use The News of The World as toilet paper.wow! I'm sure many of these places will have been demolished or renamed but it would be great to hear from anyone who knows of the family or can provide any more details. It was absolutely awesome growing up in Govan, lots of shops, such as; Galbraiths, Dands Bobby's, David's butchers, BrotherSoft paper shop, modern book shop, and Woolworths, we had a great wee doctors surgery on Langlands Road, Peacocks bakery, Nicholls store and Amey's cafe. [12], There is an oddity whereby part of eighteenth-century parish of Govan (which was in Lanarkshire) is counted as being within Renfrewshire. A friend called called Alison Galbraith. My mother and grandfather raised me alongside my two sisters and three brothers and various in-laws who moved in and out of the home through the years. Their powerlessness in this matter soon became clear when Moorepark was deliberately targeted as a dumping ground for Glasgows homeless, those on low incomes, and people with few housing points who were enabled to jump the waiting list if they accepted a house in the scheme. The most famous of these housing estates is Moorepark, sometimes referred to jocularly as "The Wine Alley"[22] - this area was named by The Independent newspaper in April 1994 as one of the worst areas in Britain, with drug abuse being a widespread problem and unemployment standing at nearly 30% (up to three times the national average at the time). I met him at our place of employment. 199310 Scottish Charity No. Prihlsi sa. My cousins and I thought we should try this. Best people you could meet. When I was a wee lassie of four living on Neptune Street in the early 50's I walked away down the street from our close and got lost. They suggested that the hill may have been a 12th-century Norman motte. Govan (/vn/ GUV-n; Cumbric? 178 9 shares Like Most relevant Denise Mcdonald Many happy memories there in the late 80s and early 90s . [42] The ships were built by the following companies: Robert Napier & Company, Randolph Elder & Company, Dobbie Hedderwick & Co., Dobie & Company, Mackie & Thomson, Smith & Rodgers, London & Glasgow Engineering and Iron Shipbuilding Co. Ltd., William Beardmore & Company, John Elder & Company, Fairfield Shipbuilding & Eng. I went to St.Constantines Primary School. I also went to the Glasgow City Mission which was in Kintra Street, how I loved my childhood. Glorious Govan. I went to St Anthony's then St Gerard's and was there at the same time as Billy Connolly though he is a year older than me. I attended Harmony Row School and Hills Trust Primary. and education and learning came into my thoughts. Govan feels vibrant again. Also used to go for a bath there even though we had a bath at home. He said: "I found myself in charge of one of the hardest areas within Strathclyde, if not Scotland. On the other hand, a government that takes no heed of the community at large fails also. who originated from the Helen Street area of Govan, but are now based further west at Shieldhall. Comedian. And Linda Paterson, I knew your dad Geordie Paterson, and I think he had a brother Willie. Nestled among the quaint streets Otherwise, unless there is agreement between authority and community, issues like social segregation will never go away unless something is done is because the housing system (and the way it operates) encourages the separation of the rich and the poor. If either cop was caught then they were on a hiding to nothing. For about a decade that shop stood empty and it broke my heart. Vine Alley Bistro 13 reviews Claimed Wine Bars, Wine Tasting Classes Edit Closed 4:00 PM - 9:00 PM Hours updated 2 months ago See hours See all 31 photos Write a review Add photo Location & Hours 114 Market St Gaithersburg, MD 20878 Get directions Edit business info You Might Also Consider Sponsored iRock Karaoke Lounge 141 Around this time heroin dealing was rife in Govan, particularly in an area called Moorepark, which was nicknamed Wine Alley. Jack, Margaret, Frank, Gerry, May, Charlie and Kathleen, Annie Maguire's 7 children. The Version table provides details related to the release that this issue/RFE will be addressed. The evidence they gathered was crucial and the jury was able to see the gang operating on the video footage shown to them. [23], It was parodied by the BBC sitcom Rab C. Nesbitt. Site Number NS56NE 4994. This site is part of Newsquest's audited local newspaper network.