Thank you guys for the info, I was just about to order an Eden Pure, uffff going to walmart to buy a Lasko or anything else like it. Received a reconditioned unit a week ago. Mr.Vila and Eden Pure do you really think it is fair game on humanity to peddle your wares on them? Nothing wrong with EdenPure technology, it is credible, and the heater is as good as any other similar purpose heater (I only have hard time accepting its "ancient" design). I have natural gas heat and now I like it even more. Also the actual cost for Endenpure gen 4 is $397 (2010 cost) refurbished 374.00 so there are models that are returned for a savings $23.00. [2] Fan heaters are the cheapest, but are often the least efficient and versatile. I was directed to 3 different 800 customer service numbers. First of all, because it is silent. The real way to reduce energy costs is to minimize the amount of energy lost by your house. You can help Wikipedia by expanding it. Want a great laugh? With the cost of propane today at over $5.49/gal anything you can do to offset propane useage is a ++++++. Of course, they are not as pretty, and being a woman I do want my house pretty, but again if I can save that much money by not using the air until it hits 80 in the house (and BTW the a/c does not stay on long with the fans on). i.e. Staffing and Recruiting. After reading all the comments, there is no way that I will save any money with this EdenPure Heater and will not order this. When the heating fuel prices were high, Quartz heaters helped by heating the rooms you lived in during the day and so the funace runs less. Get notified about new Tester jobs in Ranst, Flemish Region, Belgium. The heater is a point source of heat. Even a child knows that hot air rises. Manufacturers of electric space heaters want you to believe that using one of their devices will lower your heating bill. A radiant barrier works best in the attic. BTW, I did see a DuraFlame (the maker of the duraflame logs) had a heater with a description that was practically identical to the EdenPure and it was only approximately $225. Suarez Corporation Industries is advertising a 20,000 hour bulb life and a 10-15 year "service" life (website, printed literature and printed on carton) for both their Edenpure US-1000 and Gen4 heaters. Standing by it, it doesn't really seem like it is doing much work, but, judging from our reduced power bills, it is doing exactly what these units are claimed to do. The point has been made of how some feel about it. they sent me a RFH one it can to me in pieces they back cover was broken in several pieces. But, although our gas savings decreased our electric usage went up and we noticed about a $4 a month savings. up. If it runs 15 minutes out of every hour, it is only delivering 8,000 btus. Several EdenPURE heaters have been tested and compared against Lasko electric heaters. I have ran both units and can say for 100% certainty that my $39.99 radiator heater heated as well if not better than the Edenpure unit (neither put out enough heat to adequately heat my basement). THiS IS FOR JIMS COMMENT,IF U HAVE A HOT WATER HEATER THINK ABOUT WHAT UR SAYING IF THE WATER IS HOT U DONT NEED TO HEAT IT. If you rent, I would go with the DuraFlame at half the price and monitor the use, wear sweats, socks, and you will not only save money, you will be warm enough and have lower bills.+. Electric heat is VERY expensive, no matter how much you pay for your heater. The E.P. Hi everyone . And it is VERY safe. In looking into getting an fared heater, I did a lot of research. You cannot beat basic rule of physics saying that energy does not come from nowhere, and does not disappear to nowhere. Oh Al, It is you who does not understand electric restisance heating AT ALL Continue to believe what you want to believe. However, your actual price will depend largely on the size and type of heater you choose. [1] I was told that I have 60 days trial and could return it back within 60 if I choose to, but that is not true. Needless to say, i WILL NOT be buying any expensive heating units with misleading claims of their efficiency and lower monthly savings. Thanks for the good info that saved me. 1500w in one heater is not the same as 1500w in another using different tech to generate heat. We have really high ceilings. I am not endorsing any unit of any other just telling my experience with this unit, so do what you will with my comment. The newer model 1000XL is still$59.00. My Gen 4 burned out in 2 years, Eden pure company claims they will send me new quartz heating tubes but I want Bob Villa here to fix it!!!! Ventilation Fans. I told her that I wanted my order cancelled and it was I hope. Actual energy savings from high efficiency water heaters depend on family size, heater location, and the size and placement of water pipes. If I was Bob Vila I would not put my name on the product if they cannot get anyone to anwser the customer service number or even return your calls. According to these naysaying braniacs her hairdryer should put out more heat since they claim all heat sources are 100% efficient, etc. We bought an Eden Pure Gen 1000 a month and a half ago and lo and behold our electric company called today because they noticed a huge spike in our usage, as a matter of fact our usage has more than doubled. The key to these are you heat the rooms you are living in during the day so you use your furnace less. I could not see any savings at all. Also the heat is much nicer than baseboard heat- it feels warm and it stays comfortable. About 8 years ago, I got an estimate for ZONE HEATING for my home including the garage. How can 1500 watts out perform 1500 watts? That is the real savings. EdenPURE sells their heaters all day long on their website for $247 plus free shipping so where you got your $400 figure is a mystery. Larger units typically cost more, and other features and upgrades may drive the price up to . Commercial Boilers. Publication Date: 05/25/2006 . I know others you spoke with like theirs, but it would be helpful to all readers to hear your experience. First is that your heating plant is grossly inefficient and that your heating ducts practically are routed outside the house to heat the outside before coming back inside. He had to pay 25 bucks to ship it. Let me easily explain. I told customer services I wanted my money refunded and was told NO WAY you have had your heater over the 60 days satisfaction guarantee.. What the h..l are they talking about I have a 5 yr warranty. I am sold on the Eden Pure, but I will have to say I did see one just before seeing this page that is described much in the same way as the Eden Pure Gen4 but is marked down to $219. Other heaters I've used don't keep the rooms warm because the controls don't allow the versatility that the EdenPure does. I have a completely electric home and wanted to reduce my electric bill as it is very high now. Now if your heating a whole home that uses gas or electric and close off several rooms and used the eden pure to heat a few rooms, sure you will save money. You also only heat one room so it costs over $2 per room at an 8 hour run. I am so glad I stumbled on this site first. This has been disputed. Has anyone specifically gone from a traditional electric space heater (ONLY) to an Eden and found an improvement in their electric bill? There not trying to rip you off or scam you. The Amazon vendor that sells the $15.99 Lasko heater shown above wants $27.00 shipping! Unfortunately, the Eden Pure ad does not lie. I starting contacting the company and finally did receive a return shipping label. Any typical portable electric space heater of 1000-2000 W will produce exactly the same amount of heat as EdenPure. Delivery & Pickup Options - 214 reviews of Bill's Burgers, Wings & Things "New venture by the owners of the Maxican Restaurant here in Burnet. From $15 to the cheapest electric coil and fan garage heater (which I wound NOT recommend as it actually burns oxygen in the air), to $250 fancy infrared "wood stove-looking" (electric, of course) heater. When the sunlight is in the right direction, I can see the dust particles floating by the intake. My house has two geothermal units in it, one went out the week of Christmas and I couldn't get anyone in to work on it. EdenPure makes all these claims about saving money, but in their ad they say their $197 Personal heater will heat a room of 300 sq. The person who stated the baseboard is just as efficient may be right about it being as efficient, but only in the sense that it heats the room. heater was done on his own time in his own garage with his own tools and therefore would be outside of his scope of employment. I guess after all those years pushing Sears tools, Villa decided to push yet another scam. They make you confused with names, like US 1000, GEN 4 1000, GEN 3 1000. This listing includes patent applications that are pending as well as patents that have already been granted by the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO). I realized that this was the start of giving me the run around. I use two in my basement that have been working constant for three years (except for the summer months) and still work fine. For all those engineering types, HVAC types, etc. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on December 27, 2011: Let us know how the EdenPURE works for you, the man. Thank you so much! If you read EdenPURE ads carefully, you will note they insinuate you only have to heat the room you are in. U CANT HEAT HOT WATER DUH! It can be on all of the time or set it to the temp you want to keep it at. I don't think this is a good business now I have a machine that doesn't work. Answer: A radiant barrier is a thin reflective fabric. Last night it was 24 degrees outside, and inside my living area may have been 60 in the middle of the night, but with daylight, the temp in my living area was 64. [8], When asked about Burkett's role in the controversy, David Van Os, Burkett's lawyer, responded with the hypothesis that someone may have reconstructed documents that they believed existed in 1972 or 1973.[9]. The copper is pretreated to soften the copper . I bought one several years ago and saved like at least 100. on my first electric bill. I have a utility room in my barn that requires an electric heater. The Arena Media Brands, LLC and respective content providers to this website may receive compensation for some links to products and services on this website. What a fiasco-I will never purchase anything from Edenpure or anything associated with Bob Villa. Depending on how long you allow your electric heater to run during the colder winter months, you could see an increase in your electricity usage, along with a higher electricity bill. If you have 5000 BTU, you can comfortably heat a space around 100-200 sq.ft with outside temperature of 20-30 F and typical insulation. The problem lays, as always, in Sales and Marketing (or Greed and Misleading), that makes EdenPure a hype from the cost vs.value point of view. It is an older model. Vince DeAntonio ( D. B. Sweeney) is a former college football offensive coordinator, who abruptly resigned five years earlier, and has now become coach at the high school. A company of integrity that believes all the implications of their own commercial to be true would have no problem warranteeing for one year and paying return costs for the "so few that would come back. We bought edenpure in September. *Rates from 0% APR or 10-30% APR. Bill Burkett fights back A key player in the Dan Rather Memogate saga sends a letter to CBS, charging that its independent investigation destroyed his reputation and ignored the network's own . How long do the bulbs last, how much do they cost, and does a technician have to do the work? Question: What is the best portable heater? Furthermore, after you buy the first one they give substantial discounts on future purchases of any of their products. The BTU (British Thermal Unit) was developed for flame based heat, not electricity. Now, here we have a 1500 watt that will be plugged into the same 120 outlet as the Eden Pure, yet the Eden Pure will with its 1500 watts heat up to 1000 sq ft, and this one heats 150?? I have gas heat but use this at night to warm my bedroom, rather than raise the thermostat to heat the whole house. Someone should be going after SCI for false advertising at a minimum. I will not buy an Eden Pure until they correct the post sale issues shown here. They are usually a rip-off. We have the 1000, and the 1000XL, the are the first ones. This sure seems to be a scam. The pilgrim done swallowed the hook too. Baseboard heating provides far more uniform heat distribution. The facade is added over the top without touching except for where fastened. This can be an effective do-it-yourself project, just be careful doing so, or get someone experienced to help you. 1500 watts of electric heat will cost you the same in a $20.00 heater, or a ripoff $400.00 one. Besides I came to the conclusion that you really don't save anything with them anyway. If they did, they would have to absorb water, wouldn't they. Stay warm everyone!! Why would Villa want to be associated with this ?? Water Heater Installation & Repair Service. Sorry to sound so negative in my postings here, it's just I hate to see people get taken, especially someone who believes what they are sold on TV infomercials like these. The EdenPure heater uses 1500 Watts. Edenpure tried to be disingenuously suggestive. Frankly, I think enough has been said about the EdenPure. [3][4] According to the review panel, investigations by major news outlets at the time, including CBS, "revealed inconsistencies which led to questions regarding his credibility and whether his claims could be proven". I'm going to have to take back part of the comment about space heaters. The problem with this, of course, is that you are not saving money by heating the house more efficiently. This means it produces 5118 BTU of heat. Think about it, if you heat with gas you turn this thing on and turn the gas down then the increase in your electric bill well more than makes up for what you save on gas. And yes the personal heater that heats 50 s f is only the size Of a prison cell. Frame homes use a radiant barrier as a film on the foam insulation on the outside of the home. Burkett, William W. (Galena, MO, US) Burkett, Glenda Sue (Galena, MO, US) Application Number: 10/996346 . I have tried to return it for refund, but had to have the ORIGINAL shipping container, which I do not have after 2+ months, and neither Bass Pro Outlet nor Edenpure will accept the return w/o original shipping box, which Edenpure will NOT sell me because they say they only have one container per heater produced. I used the Gen3 1000 last winter and it kept our living area comfortable. I was going to purchase another EdenPure this year for the downstairs, but after seeing the .25 per hour and calculating the cost, that will not save money. My heating bill was $30 month versus $90 in kersosene and the side effects it left.I had to install a heavier wire to carry the amp's but it worked when I needed a heavier heater(1000)I think oil companies will do anything to keep you hooked,my dad(81)spent $800 for a couple months,got a few heaters and saved a bundle. Another interesting point that only Delbert seemed to make is--- how much maintenance is required? In repairing my ductwor, I found one unattached duct that was heating my attic! I've purchased similar heaters at Home Depot, in recent years, for about &10.00. ritamarie , you're wrong on so many levels. That way, I do believe you can save money especially during the night while sleeping. A few comments are concerned with my personal experience with EdenPURE. Kromstraat 25 1.2, 2520 Ranst, Belgium. You are dead wrong pilgrim. However, the bitter cold in the northern states may require you to run it more. The USA has turned into a scam hotbed. I am not so egotistical to refuse to admit that I was taken and that Edenpure sells grossly overpriced junk. turning you main source of heat down for the whole house and just warming up the areas you are in with the Eden Pure heater. Common sense. Is it reliable. Eden Pure is a scam because the details are hidden in clever word usage the average person, many of them on here I see, cannot grasp. No more, no less. So reliability can be good or bad. I saw Bob Vila's very convincing infomercial and I agree that space heating rooms might be more efficient than a leaky whole-house system, and it does seem logical that one 1500 watt 5000 btu space heater shouldn't be any better than another, but I would be interested to know if any Eden Pure owners have actually found this second point to be true. You can put a sheet of copper in front of your heater and buffer the heat with an electric heater. Directions to Burkett Heating & Cooling Authorized Dealer & Servicer We are authorized to install, repair, and maintain heating & cooling systems manufactured by some of the most renowned companies in the world. Of course, it seems that would use more electricity, but some of you just don't read the material correctly or don't read it at all. P.S. ANY 1500 watt electric heater will give you the exact amount of heat, no matter how much, or how little you pay for it. Ads for EdenPURE portable infrared heaters promise energy savings of up to 50 percent.